Monday, August 13, 2007

Why are these guys even bothering to play Omaha H/L?

Full Tilt Poker Game #3242754994: Satellite to FTOPS Event #8 (24716150), Table 2 - 60/120 - Limit Omaha H/L - 17:55:23 ET - 2007/08/13
Seat 1: stagmatta55 (401)
Seat 2: snookondahook (610)
Seat 3: fets31 (822)
Seat 4: PiMaster (1,117)
Seat 5: Randal Graves (2,943)
Seat 6: fstmdmslwbrn (441)
Seat 7: kb128 (3,978)
Seat 9: MashLikeThome (2,582)
Randal Graves posts the small blind of 30
fstmdmslwbrn posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PiMaster [6s 3s 8s 3h]
kb128 folds
MashLikeThome folds
stagmatta55 calls 60
snookondahook folds
fets31 folds
PiMaster folds
Randal Graves folds
fstmdmslwbrn checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 4d Jd]
fstmdmslwbrn bets 60
stagmatta55 raises to 120
fstmdmslwbrn raises to 180
stagmatta55 raises to 240
fstmdmslwbrn calls 60
*** TURN *** [8c 4d Jd] [5d]
fstmdmslwbrn bets 120
stagmatta55 calls 101, and is all in
fstmdmslwbrn shows [8h 9d 4s 2c]
stagmatta55 shows [4c Js Tc 5h]
Uncalled bet of 19 returned to fstmdmslwbrn
*** RIVER *** [8c 4d Jd 5d] [5s]
fstmdmslwbrn shows two pair, Eights and Fives, for high
stagmatta55 shows a full house, Fives full of Jacks, for high
stagmatta55 wins the pot (832) with a full house, Fives full of Jacks
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 832 Rake 0
Board: [8c 4d Jd 5d 5s]
Seat 1: stagmatta55 showed [4c Js Tc 5h] and won (832) with HI: a full house, Fives full of Jacks
Seat 2: snookondahook didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: fets31 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: PiMaster (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Randal Graves (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: fstmdmslwbrn (big blind) showed [8h 9d 4s 2c] and lost with HI: two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 7: kb128 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: MashLikeThome didn't bet (folded)

JT54 at a shorthanded table is bad enough, but 8 handed in early mid pos. What are you hoping for, that you hit a boat and despite the low coming your opp doesn't hit it, but he sticks around w/ a low two pair. Well good work then!

Full Tilt Poker Game #3242795996: Satellite to FTOPS Event #8 (24716150), Table 2 - 80/160 - Limit Omaha H/L - 17:59:46 ET - 2007/08/13
Seat 1: stagmatta55 (632)
Seat 2: snookondahook (945)
Seat 3: fets31 (722)
Seat 4: PiMaster (1,117)
Seat 5: Randal Graves (3,153)
Seat 7: kb128 (4,183)
Seat 9: MashLikeThome (2,142)
fets31 posts the small blind of 40
PiMaster posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PiMaster [Jc 8d 8c Ks]
Randal Graves folds
kb128 raises to 160
MashLikeThome folds
stagmatta55 calls 160
snookondahook folds
fets31 calls 120
PiMaster folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 5s 3d]
fets31 checks
kb128 bets 80
stagmatta55 raises to 160
fets31 folds
kb128 raises to 240
stagmatta55 raises to 320
kb128 calls 80
*** TURN *** [9h 5s 3d] [Td]
kb128 bets 160
stagmatta55 calls 152, and is all in
kb128 shows [As 9s 6h 5h]
stagmatta55 shows [7h 8s 6c 5d]
Uncalled bet of 8 returned to kb128
*** RIVER *** [9h 5s 3d Td] [3s]
kb128 shows two pair, Nines and Fives, for high
stagmatta55 shows two pair, Fives and Threes, for high
kb128 wins the pot (1,504) with two pair, Nines and Fives
stagmatta55 stands up
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,504 Rake 0
Board: [9h 5s 3d Td 3s]
Seat 1: stagmatta55 showed [7h 8s 6c 5d] and lost with HI: two pair, Fives and Threes
Seat 2: snookondahook (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: fets31 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: PiMaster (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Randal Graves didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: kb128 showed [As 9s 6h 5h] and won (1,504) with HI: two pair, Nines and Fives
Seat 9: MashLikeThome didn't bet (folded)

Calling a raise w/ 8765? You are playing for half the pot a majority of the time. Hit a straight...usually a low shows up. If it doesn't your straight is almost always on the dumb end. Hit a low...you can't bet it and you really shouldn't call with it. But this hand does have it's upside....if an 888, 777, 666, or 555 comes (and the low doesn't get there), usually you'll scoop. The other guy's play is better but not that good either.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3242811404: Satellite to FTOPS Event #8 (24716150), Table 2 - 80/160 - Limit Omaha H/L - 18:01:25 ET - 2007/08/13
Seat 2: snookondahook (785)
Seat 3: fets31 (562)
Seat 4: PiMaster (997)
Seat 5: Randal Graves (3,153)
Seat 7: kb128 (4,575)
Seat 9: MashLikeThome (2,822)
kb128 posts the small blind of 40
MashLikeThome posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PiMaster [7c 5c Jd Js]
snookondahook folds
fets31 folds
PiMaster folds
Randal Graves folds
kb128 raises to 160
MashLikeThome raises to 240
kb128 calls 80
*** FLOP *** [2c 8c Ad]
kb128 checks
MashLikeThome bets 80
kb128 calls 80
*** TURN *** [2c 8c Ad] [Ah]
kb128 checks
MashLikeThome bets 160
kb128 calls 160
*** RIVER *** [2c 8c Ad Ah] [9d]
kb128 checks
MashLikeThome checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MashLikeThome shows [Td Ac 2h Kh] a full house, Aces full of Twos, for high
kb128 mucks
MashLikeThome wins the pot (960) with a full house, Aces full of Twos
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 960 Rake 0
Board: [2c 8c Ad Ah 9d]
Seat 2: snookondahook didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: fets31 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: PiMaster didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Randal Graves (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: kb128 (small blind) mucked [Jh 4s 2d Kd] - HI: two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 9: MashLikeThome (big blind) showed [Td Ac 2h Kh] and won (960) with HI: a full house,

Battle of the blinds. Flop A82, SB calls a bet from the BB w/ KJ42 (??). He did have the nut backdoor flush draw and he was hoping the 4 would be good if another low card came (high level Omaha 8 thinking going on). Another A comes same thing happens (the bettor already has boated). River 9 and now it goes check check (??). How can the boat check behind? Is he really afraid of an A8 or A9 heads up in the blind with a guy check calling the whole way? Sure the guy usually has a low to win half, but it is a very low risk bet.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3242841489: Satellite to FTOPS Event #8 (24716150), Table 2 - 80/160 - Limit Omaha H/L - 18:04:36 ET - 2007/08/13
Seat 2: snookondahook (465)
Seat 3: fets31 (282)
Seat 4: PiMaster (1,637)
Seat 5: Randal Graves (2,433)
Seat 7: kb128 (5,335)
Seat 9: MashLikeThome (2,742)
Randal Graves posts the small blind of 40
kb128 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PiMaster [3h Qh Ad 8d]
MashLikeThome raises to 160
snookondahook folds
fets31 folds
PiMaster calls 160
Randal Graves folds
kb128 calls 80
*** FLOP *** [8s Kc 2h]
kb128 checks
MashLikeThome bets 80
PiMaster calls 80
kb128 calls 80
*** TURN *** [8s Kc 2h] [Qc]
kb128 checks
MashLikeThome checks
PiMaster bets 160
kb128 calls 160
MashLikeThome calls 160
*** RIVER *** [8s Kc 2h Qc] [Jh]
kb128 checks
MashLikeThome checks
PiMaster checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PiMaster shows [3h Qh Ad 8d] two pair, Queens and Eights, for high
kb128 mucks
MashLikeThome mucks
PiMaster wins the pot (1,240) with two pair, Queens and Eights
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,240 Rake 0
Board: [8s Kc 2h Qc Jh]
Seat 2: snookondahook didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: fets31 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: PiMaster (button) showed [3h Qh Ad 8d] and won (1,240) with HI: two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 5: Randal Graves (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: kb128 (big blind) mucked [Qd 4c 3c 5c] - HI: a pair of Queens
Seat 9: MashLikeThome mucked [Js Ac 9s 9d] - HI: a pair of Jacks

Notice the UTG raisers hand [Js Ac 9s 9d]. This is equivalent to raising UTG in Limit Holdem w/ J5s maybe. Then he bets out the K82 flop (you might as well since you got yourself into this mess), and then calls a turn Q bet with basically just a gutty.

I could easily post 20 more hands from this satellite of just awful plays. This is why is a good idea to be proficient at various forms of poker. You never know when and where a profitable situation may occur.

4 comments:

TheMasterJ said...

my fav omaha h/l hand is 9-10-J-Q. is that bad?

Chris Viox said...

lol, not if a bunch of people come in and u r in late position

TheMasterJ said...

i like to raise it utg, that way no one sees it coming.

TheGraveWolf said...

master you are such a sicko

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